EXACTLY

[velessa]

Borrowed from ajslj:

In 1787, the majority of people in this country thought African Americans were worth only three fifths of a human being. In 1887, the majority of people in this country thought Interracial Marriage was an abomination. In 2008, the majority of Californians thought marriage should only be between a man and a woman. Just because the majority of people in this country agree with you doesn't mean that you are right, it just means that a lot of people are wrong.

Comments

[mutive.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I'm quite curious as well. My guess is that he will try to avoid saying anything to avoid upsetting one side. And likely, in the process, upset all. But we will see.

[glitterberrys.livejournal.com]

Considering his early campaigns had a lot of "gay marriage is awesome, I'm all for it," and now he's saying "wait, no, as a Christian I'm against it, but civil unions are just as good, right?", I'm expecting a whole lot of pants-crapping on both sides. Me, I'm just pissed at myself for getting suckered into voting for the guy. Not that I think he's the Worst President Ever, and I still think he's better than the alternative...but had I known then what I know now, I would've written someone in or something.

[mutive.livejournal.com]

Hmmm...yes. I wonder much at Obama. He isn't fortunate, this is for sure. He is trapped in a severe recession that is not his fault (nor, probably, his predecesor's), and therefore unpopular.

I can understand his hesitancy to become engaged in a cultural war. That said, considering that his presidency is likely over if the economy does not recover come 2012 (which seems unlikely), he might as well go down being for something. Might as well throw his weight behind this, seeing as this is where his tendencies seem to lie, anyway. Although, then again, maybe this is why I am not in politics.

[glitterberrys.livejournal.com]

Despite having my own problems with this guy, I gotta say I find it weird that people expected him to make EVERY PROBLEM IN THE WORLD go away overnight.

And my fellow liberals seem to be pissed that he's not doing that, but they don't blink about the gay marriage flip-flop. I don't understand politics at all, or how people relate to politics and politicians.

[mutive.livejournal.com]

I agree completely. I always loved the Evita line "How can one person like me, say,/Alter the time-honored way the game is played?...So what are my chances of honest advances?/I'd say low/Better to win by admitting my sin/Than to lose with a halo...But first tell me who'd be delighted/If I said I'd take on the world's greatest problems/From war to pollution, no hope of solution/Even if I lived for one hundred years"

Unfortunately, Obama really did campaign on the whole "I will take on all the problems!" but then, of course, cannot. And so he is blamed for this, despite that no one could. Oh, the art of the possible...

Can you tell that I love Evita?

[glitterberrys.livejournal.com]

Evita was the one thing Andrew Lloyd Webber did right in his career. You have good taste. (Well, I exaggerate a little. Sunset Boulevard was good. And it's not like I HATE Phantom, I just don't get why everyone loves it so much...) And yes, remarkably clever. I became obsessed with it when I was...I dunno, 14? A couple of years before the movie came out. It's amazing to look back on it and realize how much there is that I couldn't appreciate then.

I do understand that Obama was like "yeah, I'll fix everything EVER," but at the same time...did people really expect it to happen? Not that I don't get pissed off when politicians don't do what they said they would, either flat-out NOT doing it or just never seeming to make the huge change they intended, but...they're politicians. They make huge promises they can't or won't keep. Don't we kind of know that going in?

I did believe all the gay equality stuff, though.

[mutive.livejournal.com]

Evita is just awesome. I'm convinced that Andrew Lloyd Webber went downhill after Tim Rice left. Tim Rice is just an awesome lyricist...

But, yeah, Evita is just the best Broadway musical ever. So clever...I really wish there were musicals that were just, you know, smart. That I got more out of each time I attempted to digest their lyrics. But I digress...

And yeah, I do expect politicians to give in. It's what happens. It's sad, but you can't promise to change the world and suddenly do it. This is ridiculous. But I agree that it would be nice to see Obama take a stand. Particularly considering that he's probably gone come November, anyway, thanks to the economy. He might as well make a big deal out of something. And the hemming and hawing hurts him every bit as much as would saying "Go, judge, go!"

[glitterberrys.livejournal.com]

Tim Rice is great at what he does.

It's funny, a while back i was talking to some friends from my early theatre geek days and one of them asked what our top 5 musicals were now. Mine hadn't changed, to their amusement (for the record: Les Miserables, which was my first ever obsession, Evita, Sunset Boulevard, Ragtime and Side Show, which is really a sentimental pick; it really wasn't very good all things considered, though brilliantly cast), but really...there haven't been THAT many amazing new musicals in a long time. I've never seen Wicked, so I may be missing out there. I'm hoping to see Next to Normal soonish, but...130+ bucks for a seat is just insane. (I unfortunately have ridiculous vertigo...tried sitting in the balcony at Avenue Q...didn't work out...never again). Wait, weren't we talking about politics? ;)

Honestly, the back and forth not wanting to offend anyone makes him seem like a weasel in my eyes, the kind of person who'll say anything to get votes. Which...probably true of all of them, but still. I don't know if it's fair that I hold against him the whole MESSIAH OF HOPE!!!! image when a lot of that seemed to come from his supporters than from his people. But maybe it's a chicken and egg thing. I could never work in politics. I think I would spend a lot of time beating my head against solid objects.

[glitterberrys.livejournal.com]

BTW, adding you. I need more nerdy peeps on my flist ;)

[mutive.livejournal.com]

Heh, works for me. One can never know too many nerds. ;)

[velessa.livejournal.com]

I'm not one of them. It astounds me that people really honestly thought he was going to fix all the country's problems in the first three months or something, which is about how long they gave him before they started bitching about things still being crappy. He's not a fucking wizard, people!

Besides, he has to fight an uphill battle against every conservitard politican out there since they have absolutely no intention of working with him on anything and are happy to just cover their ears and scream NO NO NO!!